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Hybrids make good around town cars. The inefficiency of the gas is highest when they accelerate from stop, and this is where the high torque electric takes over. I don't believe they are much if any more efficient on the road at speed.
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Murf, in the Honda (and I think the Toyota) the system is not like a locomotive. The electric motor is in line with the drive train just aft of the gas motor and in front of the transmission. It's large diameter and only about as thick as a clutch & pressure plate. The electric motor is only an assist for power. It also bleeds off momentum by helping to recharge the batteries on deceleration.

I would like to see a locomotive type system. I think it would have higher efficiency than this one.
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"With almost 25% more available energy per gallon, diesel seems like an obvious place to look for efficiencies. "

I'll paraphrase a statement made earlier this year on this site. "GM singlehandedly ruined the diesel market in the US for decades."

The marketers know that many are still afraid they're all boat anchors like the 350 GM diesel.
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"It takes more crude to produce one gallon of diesel than it does one gallon of gas."

Ann, if this is true, why is diesel the preferred fuel around the world? It seems that diesel is generally easier to find produce. Or am I totally wrong?
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In looking a bit further it seems that Ann is correct. But you don't get less diesel volume from crude at the expense of gasoline. The diesel and kerosene remain after the gasoline is refined.

The important thing is that diesel gives more energy at reduced cost.

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Hybrids make good around town cars. The inefficiency of the gas is highest when they accelerate from stop, and this is where the high torque electric takes over. I don't believe they are much if any more efficient on the road at speed. Dave

"It takes more crude to produce one gallon of diesel than it does one gallon of gas." Ann, if this is true, why is diesel the preferred fuel around the world? It seems that diesel is generally easier to find produce. Or am I totally wrong? Dave

In looking a bit further it seems that Ann is correct. But you don't get less diesel volume from crude at the expense of gasoline. The diesel and kerosene remain after the gasoline is refined. The important thing is that diesel gives more energy at reduced cost.

Hybrids make good around town cars. The inefficiency of the gas is highest when they accelerate from stop, and this is where the high torque electric takes over. I don't believe they are much if any more efficient on the road at speed.
Dave

"It takes more crude to produce one gallon of diesel than it does one gallon of gas."

Ann, if this is true, why is diesel the preferred fuel around the world? It seems that diesel is generally easier to find produce. Or am I totally wrong?
Dave

In looking a bit further it seems that Ann is correct. But you don't get less diesel volume from crude at the expense of gasoline. The diesel and kerosene remain after the gasoline is refined.

The important thing is that diesel gives more energy at reduced cost.